View Full Version : Trolling Guidelines------ Delete 'em, Ban 'em. Frukk 'em!
hacksaw
03-21-2007, 05:33 PM
<div>members shouldnt post japper **** in the american forums with tounge in cheek or headupthebutt efforts to troll and flame. </div><div> </div><div>members shouldnt post photochopped pictures of members or members families without permission of the pictured member.</div><div> </div><div>members shouldnt post close up pictures of their rotten lunch.</div><div> </div><div>members shouldnt deal in racist comments like white trash or calling other members racists just because they ride harleys.</div><div> </div><div>members should know this forum is CyleWorld , not Car and Driver or ATV Times.</div><div> </div><div>members should not use the PM function for implied phsical threats or spamming.</div><div> </div><div>members shouldnt post ariel maps of others neighborhoods and imply crimes are taking place or talk of bombing.</div><div> </div><div>please ban Honda919Rider(the Dee Dee Dee guy) for violating all of the above.</div><div> </div><div> </div>
ZRX4ME
03-21-2007, 06:21 PM
<div>"members shouldnt deal in racist comments like white trash or calling other members racists just because they ride harleys."<br> Agreed, Hack!, but then your signature..."Freinds dont let freinds, ride rice!" kinda contradicts that, dontcha think?</div><div> </div>
ZRX4ME
03-21-2007, 06:37 PM
<div></div><div>"members shouldnt post japper **** in the american forums with tounge in cheek or headupthebutt efforts to troll and flame"</div><div> </div><div> "Japper ****"? Good thing you arent into those.."racist comments". </div><div> CHILL OUT, HACK.NOBODY but CW "owns" any part of the Forum. Anybody wants rules to change, I suggest they lead by example. If they can.</div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by ZRX4ME on <span class="date_text">03-21-2007</span><span class="time_text">05:39 PM</span></p>
Monkeyshines
03-22-2007, 07:50 PM
<div>And as long as Hack wants things cleaned up, a bar of forum soap to his constant vulgar language and namecalling, good grief, he even does it in the thread he starts on forum decorum.</div>
<div>You forgot to add:</div><div> </div><div>members should realize that they aren't moderators or partial CW Forums owners, even if they have been around for years.</div><div> </div><div>members will let CW run their board as they choose. If the members don't like it, they are free to "frukk off". ;)</div>
ButtCrack
03-25-2007, 12:51 AM
I've been waiting for one of you genius' to tell me <b>what RACE is RICE ?</b>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 08:05 AM
<div></div><div><br><blockquote><div><hr>ButtCrack wrote:<br>I've been waiting for one of you genius' to tell me <b>what RACE is RICE ?</b><br><hr></div></blockquote>"Rice" is a commonly used racial slur used towards Asians, mostly by westerners. Quite a few dirivitives of the word I won't post. Look it up.<br><div></div></div>
ButtCrack
03-25-2007, 01:39 PM
OK shineyman, Let me clue you ....<br><br>In a PC sorta world, Hack's statement would be derogatory towards the motorcycle<br>Since in your infinite cranial capacity, you already know that any person of any race might be riding said bike, it was not a comment toward the rider. I can see how a YamaHonKawaZuki motorcycle might take offense because a Harley just would not give a Fukk what you think.<br><br>You farmers nEEd a life. How's that for racist.<br><br><i>an Ignorant person is someone who does not know something,<br>a StOOpid person is one who goes out of their way to be Ignorant.</i>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 02:17 PM
<div>Namecalling is the last resort of a small stance.</div><div> </div><div>Using the term "rice" is referring to the origin of the bike not the rider, you know that. Again, look up the term "rice" as a discription of any and all things asian in any racial slur database. Using language and terms in a certain way conduces from certain attitudes and beliefs in the speaker. How is the term used? "Freinds don't let freinds ride rice". Aggression neutral? Derogatory? Why was the word "Asian" or "Japanese" not substituted? To make a point. And making a point by using a word widely thought of as a racial slur by Asians, when you full well know it, yet try and dance around it claiming over-PCism is disingenuous and irresponsible. </div><div> </div><div>Linguistician heal thyself :</div><div> </div><div><em>"Interesting that an over looked part of free speech is <u>responsibility</u> and silence" ~ Buttcrack</em></div><div><em></em> </div><div><em></em> </div><div><em></em> </div><div><em></em> </div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 02:26 PM
<div><div>Namecalling is the last resort of a weak stance.</div><div> </div><div>Using the term "rice" is referring to the origin of the bike not the rider, you know that. Again, look up the term "rice" as a discription of any and all things asian in any racial slur database. Using language and terms in a certain way conduces from certain attitudes and beliefs in the speaker. How is the term used? "Freinds don't let freinds ride rice". Aggression neutral? Derogatory? Why was the word "Asian" or "Japanese" not substituted? To make a point. And making a point by using a word widely thought of as a racial slur by Asians, when you full well know it, yet try and dance around it claiming over-PCism is disingenuous and irresponsible. </div><div> </div><div>Linguistician heal thyself :</div><div> </div><div><em>"Interesting that an over looked part of free speech is <u>responsibility</u> and silence" ~ Buttcrack</em></div></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 02:28 PM
<div><div><div>Namecalling is the last resort of a weak position.</div><div> </div><div>Using the term "rice" is referring to the origin of the bike not the rider, you know that. Again, look up the term "rice" as a discription of any and all things asian in any racial slur database. Using language and terms in a certain way conduces from certain attitudes and beliefs in the speaker. How is the term used? "Freinds don't let freinds ride rice". Aggression neutral? Derogatory? Why was the word "Asian" or "Japanese" not substituted? To make a point. And making a point by using a word widely thought of as a racial slur by Asians, when you full well know it, yet try and dance around it claiming over-PCism is disingenuous and irresponsible. </div><div> </div><div>Linguistician heal thyself :</div><div> </div><div><em>"Interesting that an over looked part of free speech is <u>responsibility</u> and silence" ~ Buttcrack</em></div></div></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 02:30 PM
<div><div><div>Namecalling is the last resort of a weak position.</div><div> </div><div>Using the term "rice" is referring to the origin of the bike, you know that. Again, look up the term "rice" as a discription of any and all things asian in any racial slur database. Using language and terms in a certain way conduces from certain attitudes and beliefs in the speaker. How is the term used? "Freinds don't let freinds ride rice". Aggression neutral? Derogatory? Why was the word "Asian" or "Japanese" not substituted? To make a point. And making a point by using a word widely thought of as a racial slur by Asians, when you full well know it, yet try and dance around it claiming over-PCism is disingenuous and irresponsible. </div><div> </div><div>Linguistician heal thyself :</div><div> </div><div><em>"Interesting that an over looked part of free speech is <u>responsibility</u> and silence" ~ Buttcrack</em></div></div></div>
ButtCrack
03-25-2007, 03:37 PM
Your confusion is amazing Shiner,<br><br>People always read what they want to read into something, you take it as a derogatory toward asian people and I take as a derogatory toward bikes less worthy....<br><br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"<br><br>You like my tag Line ? You should try it open thy mouth and insert foot, simply because you don't get it.<br><br>After it is all over smart people don't care what you're whining about.....
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 04:23 PM
<div></div><div><br></div><blockquote><div><hr>ButtCrack wrote:<br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"<br><hr></div></blockquote><div>Portray a disagreement as confusion or whatever you wish. It only diminishes the level of your discourse.</div><div> </div><div>The first part, having the right to say whatever and be whatever you want? True. 100%. As is the right to point out the objections, basically, "what I want to say". Hence your statement "I don't say what I want" is moot.</div><div> </div><div>Does <span class="question">racism need to be legitimately harmful in order to be considered morally objectionable? I guess it strikes me that any failure to accord others the dignity they are due as human beings causes significant harm not only to others, but also to oneself. If you agree that racism is a failure to respect human dignity, you ought to recognize it as morally objectionable and ought work to correct that failure in your own life. But again, as you point out, this is just <em>my</em> belief, and being a free people we are free to choose our own actions.</span></div><div><span class="question"></span> </div><div><span class="question">I notice you only stood on the "rice" epithet. The original posts also refereed to the use of "japper". Am I to assume you also think there is no problem with that term? Or by admission , that may be on the blue side of convention? I already know how you feel about the namecalling and vulgar language, so no need to pursue that area. Just an inquisitive mind here, I feel we're getting to know each other. That doesn't mean we need to come to an agreement.</span></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 04:31 PM
<div><br></div><blockquote><div><hr></div><div>ButtCrack wrote:</div><div>Your confusion is amazing Shiner,<br><br>People always read what they want to read into something, you take it as a derogatory toward asian people and I take as a derogatory toward bikes less worthy....<br><br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"</div><div><hr><br></div><div> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">My point being, is that it <em>is </em>derogatory to Asian <em>people.</em> That's a distinction that shouldn't be missed. Good grief, call my bike a junkpile, I could care less, nor would Asian people, well maybe the ones who designed it might. Anyway,</div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">Portray a disagreement as confusion or whatever you wish. It only diminishes the level of your discourse.</div></blockquote><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">The first part, having the right to say whatever and be whatever you want? True. 100%. As is the right to point out the objections, basically, "what I want to say". Hence your statement "I don't say what I want" is moot.</div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">Does <span class="question">racism need to be legitimately harmful in order to be considered morally objectionable? I guess it strikes me that any failure to accord others the dignity they are due as human beings causes significant harm not only to others, but also to oneself. If you agree that racism is a failure to respect human dignity, you ought to recognize it as morally objectionable and ought work to correct that failure in your own life. But again, as you point out, this is just <em>my</em> belief, and being a free people we are free to choose our own actions.</span></div><div align="left"><span class="question"></span> </div><div align="left"><span class="question">I notice you only stood on the "rice" epithet. The original posts also refereed to the use of "japper". Am I to assume you also think there is no problem with that term? Or by admission , that may be on the blue side of convention? I already know how you feel about the namecalling and vulgar language, so no need to pursue that area. Just an inquisitive mind here, I feel we're getting to know each other. That doesn't mean we need to come to an agreement.</span></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 05:40 PM
<div><blockquote><div><hr></div><div>ButtCrack wrote:</div><div>Your confusion is amazing Shiner,<br><br>People always read what they want to read into something, you take it as a derogatory toward asian people and I take as a derogatory toward bikes less worthy....<br><br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"</div><div><hr><br></div><div> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">My point being, is that it <em>is </em>derogatory to Asian <em>people.</em> That's a distinction that shouldn't be missed. Good grief, call my bike a junkpile, I could care less, nor would Asian people, well maybe the ones who designed it might. Portray a disagreement as confusion or whatever you wish. It only diminishes the level of your discourse.</div></blockquote><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">The first part, having the right to say whatever and be whatever you want? True. 100%. As is the right to point out the objections, basically that being what I want to say. Hence your statement "I don't say what I want" is moot.</div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">Does <span class="question">racism need to be legitimately harmful in order to be considered morally objectionable? I guess it strikes me that any failure to accord others the dignity they are due as human beings causes significant harm not only to others, but also to oneself. If you agree that racism is a failure to respect human dignity, you ought to recognize it as morally objectionable and ought work to correct that failure in your own life. But again, as you point out, this is just <em>my</em> belief, and being a free people we are free to choose our own actions.</span></div><div align="left"><span class="question"></span> </div><div align="left"><span class="question">I notice you only stood on the "rice" epithet. The original posts also refereed to the use of "japper". Am I to assume you also think there is no problem with that term? Or by admission , that may be on the blue side of convention? I already know how you feel about the namecalling and vulgar language, so no need to pursue that area. Just an inquisitive mind here, I feel we're getting to know each other. That doesn't mean we need to come to an agreement.</span></div></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 05:42 PM
<div><div><blockquote><div><hr></div><div>ButtCrack wrote:</div><div>Your confusion is amazing Shiner,<br><br>People always read what they want to read into something, you take it as a derogatory toward asian people and I take as a derogatory toward bikes less worthy....<br><br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"</div><div><hr><br></div><div> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">My point being, is that it <em>is </em>derogatory to Asian <em>people.</em> That's a distinction that shouldn't be missed. Good grief, call my bike a junkpile, I could care less, nor would Asian people, well maybe the ones who designed it might. Call names, Try and portray a disagreement as confusion, or whiney, or whatever you wish. It only diminishes the level of <em>your</em> discourse.</div></blockquote><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">The first part, having the right to say whatever and be whatever you want? True. 100%. As is the right to point out the objections, basically that being what I want to say. Hence your statement "I don't say what I want" is moot.</div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">Does <span class="question">racism need to be legitimately harmful in order to be considered morally objectionable? I guess it strikes me that any failure to accord others the dignity they are due as human beings causes significant harm not only to others, but also to oneself. If you agree that racism is a failure to respect human dignity, you ought to recognize it as morally objectionable and ought work to correct that failure in your own life. But again, as you point out, this is just <em>my</em> belief, and being a free people we are free to choose our own actions.</span></div><div align="left"><span class="question"></span> </div><div align="left"><span class="question">I notice you only stood on the "rice" epithet. The original posts also refereed to the use of "japper". Am I to assume you also think there is no problem with that term? Or by admission , that may be on the blue side of convention? I already know how you feel about the namecalling and vulgar language, so no need to pursue that area. Just an inquisitive mind here, I feel we're getting to know each other. That doesn't mean we need to come to an agreement.</span></div></div></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 05:45 PM
<div><blockquote><div><hr></div><div>ButtCrack wrote:</div><div>Your confusion is amazing Shiner,<br><br>People always read what they want to read into something, you take it as a derogatory toward asian people and I take as a derogatory toward bikes less worthy....<br><br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"</div><div><hr><br></div><div> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">My point being, is that it <em>is </em>derogatory to Asian <em>people.</em> That's a distinction that shouldn't be missed. Good grief, call my bike a junkpile, I could care less, nor would Asian people, well maybe the ones who designed it might. Call names, Try and portray a disagreement as confusion, or whiney, or whatever you wish. It only diminishes the level of <em>your</em> discourse.</div></blockquote><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">The first part, having the right to say whatever and be whatever one wants, no matter who it affects? True. 100%. As is the right to point out the objections, basically, that being what I want to say. Hence your statement "I don't say what I want" is moot.</div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">Does <span class="question">racism need to be legitimately harmful in order to be considered morally objectionable? I guess it strikes me that any failure to accord others the dignity they are due as human beings causes significant harm not only to others, but also to oneself. If you agree that racism is a failure to respect human dignity, you ought to recognize it as morally objectionable and ought work to correct that failure in your own life. But again, as you point out, this is just <em>my</em> belief, and being a free people we are free to choose our own actions.</span></div><div align="left"><span class="question"></span> </div><div align="left"><span class="question">I notice you only stood on the "rice" epithet. The original posts also refereed to the use of "japper". Am I to assume you also think there is no problem with that term? Or by admission , that may be on the blue side of convention? I already know how you feel about the namecalling and vulgar language, so no need to pursue that area. Just an inquisitive mind here, I feel we're getting to know each other. That doesn't mean we need to come to an agreement</span></div></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 05:48 PM
<div><div><blockquote><div><hr></div><div>ButtCrack wrote:</div><div>Your confusion is amazing Shiner,<br><br>People always read what they want to read into something, you take it as a derogatory toward asian people and I take as a derogatory toward bikes less worthy....<br><br>Your right of course but what YOU MISS is it is even a person RIGHT to be prejudice....You may or may not agree but he says what he wants to say and you don't so WHO is "disingenuous and irresponsible"</div><div><hr><br></div><div> </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">My point being, is that it <em>is </em>derogatory to Asian <em>people.</em> That's a distinction that shouldn't be missed. Good grief, call my bike a junkpile, I could care less, nor would Asian people, well maybe the ones who designed it might. Call names, Try and portray a disagreement as confusion, or whiney, or whatever you wish. It only diminishes the level of <em>your</em> discourse.</div></blockquote><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">The first part, having the right to say whatever and be whatever one wants, no matter who it affects? True. 100%. As is the right to point out the objections, basically, that being what I want to say. Hence your statement "I don't say what I want" is moot.</div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">Does <span class="question">racism need to be legitimately harmful in order to be considered morally objectionable? I guess it strikes me that any failure to accord others the dignity they are due as human beings causes significant harm not only to others, but also to oneself. If you agree that racism is a failure to respect human dignity, you ought to recognize it as morally objectionable and ought work to correct that failure in your own life. But again, as you point out, this is just <em>my</em> belief, and being a free people we are free to choose our own actions.</span></div><div align="left"><span class="question"></span> </div><div align="left"><span class="question">I notice you only stood on the "rice" epithet. The original posts also refereed to the use of "japper". Am I to assume you also think there is no problem with that term? Or by your omission , that it may be on the blue side of your convention? I already know how you feel about the namecalling and vulgar language, so no need to pursue that area. Just an inquisitive mind here, I feel we're getting to know each other. That doesn't mean we need to come to an agreement</span></div></div></div>
ButtCrack
03-25-2007, 06:51 PM
You are absolutely wrong because of your desire to be part of the PC crowd.<br><br>You or NO ONE else has the power to make ME feel any certain way based on what you say. What you say and think is of NO consequence to me. Call me whatever you like, BFD.<br><br>When you give the power to others to create any feeling or mood, then you have given power over you to that person. Given of your own free accord.<br><br>Ya see the part that bothers you most is MY opinion is just as valid as yours from an opinion stand point, in a Right vs Wrong stand point you're not even close, But you have the RIGHT to be WRONG.<br><br>As you said you have the right to disagree and be wrong....
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 08:35 PM
<div> </div><div> </div><div>Well mister naughtymouth, (except for that) I haven't called <em>you</em> anything, you've mixed you and I up. We must look too much alike.</div><div> </div><div>No crowd. Just me myself and I. And that voice inside. You have a voice inside too, the one <em>you</em> follow. The things I believe come from waaaaay back, not a snapshot of politico/socio-correct/incorrect-ness, that would lead down rabbit trails. Correctamundo no one has the power to make you feel, do, say, act, anyway you don't want to. The way you feel is the way you choose to feel, whatever it is, is coming from you. All warm and comfy.</div><div> </div><div>Actually, none of this bothers me at all, just talking, showing what I am and where I'm coming from.</div><div> </div><div>Sorry I don't share your anger, is that what this is about? You're angry? This sport of yours(verbal jousting) makes you angry? Or vents your anger? Something to think about. Or not. Just going by the hostility level.</div><div> </div><div>I think I am a reflective person, hopefully capable of bringing new critical thought to bear on my attitudes and on what makes me be the best I am capable of, not just for <em>my</em> betterment, but for those I encounter, and in the case of my moral consciousness in particular, it is hopefully a matter of remaining open to new insights and perspectives, so that it is (in my opinion) an essential dimension of ethical thinking that is an endlessly dynamic, and critical journey.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks again for the talk and reconfirming our right to disagree about using slurs. I'll take you up on that, I disagree. I know that makes you happy, that's what I'm here for my little buddy.</div><div></div>
Monkeyshines
03-25-2007, 09:12 PM
<div><div>Well mister naughtymouth, (except for that) I haven't called <em>you</em> anything, you've mixed you and I up. We must look too much alike.</div><div> </div><div>No crowd. Just me myself and I. And that voice inside. You have a voice inside too, the one <em>you</em> follow. The things I believe come from waaaaay back, not a snapshot of politico/socio-correct/incorrect-ness, that would lead down rabbit trails. Correctamundo no one has the power to make you feel, do, say, act, anyway you don't want to. The way you feel is the way you choose to feel, whatever it is, is coming from you. All warm and comfy.</div><div> </div><div>Actually, none of this bothers me at all, just talking, showing what I am and where I'm coming from.</div><div> </div><div>Sorry I don't share your anger, is that what this is about? You're angry? This sport of yours(verbal jousting) makes you angry? Or vents your anger? Something to think about. Or not. Just going by the hostility level.</div><div> </div><div>I think I am a reflective person, hopefully capable of bringing new critical thought to bear on my attitudes and on what makes me be the best I am capable of, not just for <em>my</em> betterment, but for those I encounter, and in the case of my moral consciousness in particular, it is hopefully a matter of remaining open to new insights and perspectives, so that it is (in my opinion) an essential dimension of ethical thinking that is an endlessly dynamic, and critical journey.</div><div> </div><div>Thanks again for the talk and reconfirming our right to disagree about using slurs. I'll take you up on that, I disagree. I know that makes you happy, that's what I'm here for my freind.</div></div>
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