2009 Husaberg, thinking outside the box.

[motogrady]

<div>I know it's kinda fuzzy, but this is the Husaberg for 2009. The reason I put it up</div><div>is the motor. Kinda like the old Harley Sprint motors, it has an almost horizonal cylinder.</div><div>Talk is lower center of gravity and more weight on the front are the big benifits.</div><div>Hey, high c/g has been one of my biggest, ah, observations with the 4 strokes</div><div>streaming out of Japan. Who know's, it might be a good thing. Different for sure.</div><div>Time will tell.</div><div> </div><div>http://www.motonews.com/mototalk2/files/845266-06112007_G_sized.jpg</div><div> </div>

[Hackasaw]

http://www.falstaffbrewing.com/boxhead.jpg<div></div>

[motogrady]

<div>Hahaha yer funny, now get the f@@@ out of this thread and take yer sorry A@@ S### somewhere else.</div>

[motogrady]

<div>Well, Lookie Lookie here.</div><div> </div><div>http://www.motonews.com/mototalk2/files/845341-motor_husa_90_right.sized.jpg</div>

[Hackasaw]

ha ha gfy<br><div></div>

[motogrady]

<div>Whatever guy. Thanks for the contribution. We need more of that around here.</div>

[Monkeyshines]

Oh everyone lighten up already.<br><br>The mechanicals look very nice, but I hate the flat top style these days. Probably a fine race bike and winner but not for me.

[twistNshout]

<div>&quot;......but I hate the flat top style these days....&quot; <strong>Man, you got that RIGHT!</strong></div><div><strong></strong> </div><div>Never gonna buy a bike that was designed with a T-square.</div>

[motogrady]

<div>Hey, I'd like to see it completly horizonal. Sling that thing as low</div><div>as it go.</div><div> </div><div>I maight be mistaken, but is that fuel injection?</div>

[pplassm]

<div>Yeah that's a throttle body, alright. Very interesting.</div><div> </div><div>As far as the flat top look, that's what it takes to keep control going Mach Schnell in the woods! Ya gotto keep moving!</div><div> </div><div>Why are you sitting down, anyways?:D</div>

[Buelligan]

<div>When it comes to offroad bikes, beauty is strictly in the function for me. </div>

[motogrady]

<div><img border="2" src="http://www.vft.org/Sprint/SprintCRriteEngine.jpg" height="396" width="525"></div>

[Monkeyshines]

<br><blockquote><hr>pplassm wrote:<br><div></div><div> </div><div>As far as the flat top look, that's what it takes to keep control going Mach Schnell in the woods! Ya gotto keep moving!</div><div> </div><div>Why are you sitting down, anyways?:D</div><br><hr></blockquote><br><br><br><br>Guys were going mach schnell in the woods for decades before the ironing board style.<br>Not like it's a trials bike, there are times when you sit on it. And look at it. :D<br>Fine for a top level racer, but sucks as a playbike for mere mortals.

[Monkeyshines]

Speaking of function, center of gravity is at least as important in offroad riding, why place half the weight(you) above the bikes topline? And why add another six inches to the seat height, doesn't help at all at foot plant time. Just as in sportbike seating and ergos, it's way more about the techie look than function for less than ten/tenths riders, most would be faster on a more rational bike. But if your name is Jeremy McGrath, this is probably the bike for you.

[motogrady]

<div>Shines, I'm thinking a low profile motor, something like the Sprint, would make it possible to</div><div>lower everything. Seat, frame backbone and fuel tank. The head and valvetrain too.</div><div> </div><div>As far as getting yer body to fit below the centerline of gravity, that I'd like to see.</div>

[Monkeyshines]

<br><blockquote><hr>motogrady wrote:<br><div>Shines, I'm thinking a low profile motor, something like the Sprint, would make it possible to</div><div>lower everything. Seat, frame backbone and fuel tank. The head and valvetrain too.</div><div> </div><div>As far as getting yer body to fit below the centerline of gravity, that I'd like to see.</div><br><hr></blockquote><br><br><br><br>I see your point, and it's a good one with the laydown design, does add length, though maybe it's a good trade.<br><br>And I'd be happy with getting my butt below the topline of the new bikes. A seat more than four inches wide would be nice also.

[pplassm]

<div></div><div><br><blockquote><div><hr>Monkeyshines wrote:<br>Speaking of function, center of gravity is at least as important in offroad riding, why place half the weight(you) above the bikes topline? And why add another six inches to the seat height, doesn't help at all at foot plant time. Just as in sportbike seating and ergos, it's way more about the techie look than function for less than ten/tenths riders, most would be faster on a more rational bike. But if your name is Jeremy McGrath, this is probably the bike for you.<br><hr></div></blockquote><br><div>&quot;Flat&quot; is so you can shift weight while riding. Tall seat height is to ease seated to standing transition. Heck, I put taller seats on my dirtbikes, easier on the knees. The footpegs can only be so close to the ground. </div><div> </div><div>Mine are all play bikes. Who wants to race anymore. Too far to go for not enough ride time.</div><div> </div><div>Sounds like you're looking for a GasGas Pampera or something.</div></div>

[pplassm]

<div></div><div><br><blockquote><div><hr>Monkeyshines wrote:<br>Speaking of function, center of gravity is at least as important in offroad riding, why place half the weight(you) above the bikes topline? And why add another six inches to the seat height, doesn't help at all at foot plant time. Just as in sportbike seating and ergos, it's way more about the techie look than function for less than ten/tenths riders, most would be faster on a more rational bike. But if your name is Jeremy McGrath, this is probably the bike for you.<br><hr></div></blockquote><br><div>I read this again, no, I'm not a sh*t hot rider, but I really do enjoy riding the latest dirt bikes. They flat out work.</div><div> </div><div>Apparent and applied CG while standing is more important than seated CG. Your legs are suspension, too, ya know. If a low saddle offered any advantage in off-road riding, riders would be all over it, looks be damned! </div><div> </div><div>At the events I frequent (Dual-Sport runs and TurkeyRuns), most riders aren't afraid to modify their bikes. Nobody is overly concerned with fashion statements. I see many more folks going more agressive with their bikes, than being softer and more laid back. if you've ever gone to one of these, you know that the demographics of dual sport riders are older flks more concerned about having fun than winning a race.</div><div> </div><div>I guess what I'm saying is, the reason that these bikes don't exist is because nobody would buy them. Or, just maybe, they already DO exist and folks like you really don't want them. Examples: GasGas Pampera, Kawasaki Super Sherpa, older KLR250, XT350, etc.</div><div> </div><div>FWIW, I am over 50, ex &quot;C' level enduro/cross-country/desert/MX rider, now trail rider. I ride a DRZ400S and a KTM525 EXC, and I am about to pull the trigger on a new 2 stroke MXer and modify it for trail riding. See you on the trail!</div></div>

[Monkeyshines]

Well I don't ride at events, just casual trail rides with friends, yes I'll still jump and all, and I do know about moving around on the bike, I've been off roading since the early seventies on my first Honda Elsinore, I'm no Gary Jones but I do allright. I disagree with a lower seat not being an advantage at times. I understand my riding style is oldschool, but it works for me. I probably sit/stand equal time, sitting in berms and tight corners with an outriggered leg, my knees are good so that's not an issue. I'd also like an air-cooled motor which narrows it my choices even more. And I didn't say I want a softer bike, but a comfortable seat is important to me half the time offroad, and all the time onroad.

[Buelligan]

<div></div><div><br><blockquote><div><hr><div>http://www.motonews.com/mototalk2/files/845266-06112007_G_sized.jpg</div><div> </div><br><hr></div></blockquote><br><div>http://www.eurospares.com/aerdirt.jpg</div><div> </div><div>The Aermacchi Scrambler looks better. </div></div>

[Buelligan]

<div>http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/orr23.jpg</div>

[motogrady]

<div>Haha, great find Buell, that's what I'm talking about.</div>

[pplassm]

<div>Hmmmm. I've got a friend with some Sprint engines and fromes. Maybe I can build a vintage bike!</div>

[motogrady]

<div>I know, that's a short travel bike but look at the space between</div><div>the motor and tank. Add 8 inches front and back suspenders, drop seat and tank</div><div>what looks to be 6 inches, bingo. 5'6'' touches the ground.</div><div> </div><div>Man it's sucks HD and Buell dropped out.</div>

[lube]

<div>I think you may be missing the point on Husaberg engine layout.</div><div> </div><div>The interesting thing is the gearbox layout more than the cylinder orientation.</div><div> </div><div>The vertical gearcase has the weight better centralized between the riders calves, and will allow less turn resistance due to shorter moment of inertia in front-back direction.</div><div>Cylinder is not so massive, as has large hole in it! (Head weighs though)</div><div> </div><div>Biggest changes to allow this new think are:</div><div>1)adoption of electric start( frees up engine configuration)</div><div>2) fuel injection (or at least a fuel pump) to get gas up to that high mounted carb. ( i suspect most of gas is below rider seat in region typically used for the air box.</div><div> </div><div>As far as the &quot;flat top&quot; look, and how cushy a seat you monkey butt needs, kinda irrelevant in discussion of new bike power plant layout with plastic sub-frame and many other high tech infusions. Monkey, if your looking for air cooled motors, your way off the mark of this kinda tech. Never get by the sound police. You did notice the lights and street legal provisions eh?</div><div>Go to Husaberg's web site if you want more on this 2009 model.</div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.husaberg.com/HUSABERG-2009.186.0.html">http://www.husaberg.com/HUSABERG-2009.186.0.html</a></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>