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Echo1
02-03-2007, 04:29 PM
Considering Cycle World's heritage &amp; longetivity, it's one of the best motorcycle magazines on the planet. You have many outstanding articles in your archive. In fact one of the best articles I've ever read is in the December 1966 issue of Cycle World. Titled &quot;Baja and Back&quot; it's about a couple guys riding Hodaka 90s!! the entire length of Baja, ferrying across the Sea of Cortez, then riding the Pan American highway back. The cover picture even shows one of them making a water crossing. This article is timeless and provides a great contrast to riding Baja today.<br><br>How about reprinting great articles like this just as they appeared originally in Cycle World complete with the advertising at that time? You could even make it better by printing additional photos you may have, possibly tell us where the riders are today and if still alive maybe even get some comments from them.

FLHRI_OK
02-03-2007, 11:47 PM
I'd buy that for a dollar!

carlo
02-04-2007, 01:53 AM
They do have that &quot;25 years ago&quot;... thing, or did last time I checked. But that's moving forward to the point where there isn't all that much real historical interest anymore. At least to me.<br><br>I'd love to see a series of reprints starting with the very first issue.<br><br>BTW, I've been posting scanned ads from old issues of CW down in the classic section. I know the article you're talking about. I could scan that and post it up. I recall that it was several pages long, so I'd probably do it over a period of a few days.<br><br>Are you a Hodaka owner? I know several guys who are with the Hodaka Owners Register. They put on a big get-together up in Athena (home of PABATCO) every summer.

ducbsa
02-04-2007, 08:04 AM
<div>I think these were in either CW or Cycle, but I would like to read them again.</div><div> </div><div>- A story about running a hot rod Sportster in some race over the roads in Baja. One part had an advance party trying to bribe a toll booth attendant to let the bike through without stopping and not finishing before the rider just blasted through anyway. (Memory a bit fuzzy on that.)</div><div> </div><div>- A multi-article feature on Vincents. One much-modified bike had a Sportster clutch as I recall.</div><div> </div><div>Does anyone else remember these?</div><div> </div><div>I assume you have bound sets saved of the past issues.</div>

Echo1
02-04-2007, 09:28 PM
I don't have copies of old issues. I wish I did. So I'm hoping CW will reprint once in a while. I'm sure there's many great articles. I'd like to read the sportster in Baja story. Maybe they could do a coffee table book or have old issues available online for purchase. Those old ads are amazing too. I'll check them out in classics. Yeah, if CW doesn't have a problem scanning &amp; posting articles from old issues that would be great. Makes their website even more valuable.<br><br>I never had a Hodaka. When I was a kid, the girl next door boyfriend had one and I was totally mesmerized by that bike. The frame was red and the tank was chrome. The guy could wheelie at will. I remember I'd hear that bike coming and race to the neighbors house, then I'd see the bike riding up, and then finally smell the 2-stroke oil burn. I was smitten. To this day I love the smell of burning 2-stroke oil. I'm sure my neighbor &amp; her boyfriend thought I was a real geek kid but they were always real nice.

hacksaw
02-04-2007, 10:02 PM
<div>better than rehashing yesterdays news (by the way, i have asked for a 40 or even 50 years ago today column), have the guys if they are still alive, run the bikes again following the original article. CW has made strides, perhaps unwittingly, toward this with the funky ural/egan search for lindberg, or even closer the commemorative '06 superglide review writen by the staffer who did the original in 1971. </div><div> </div><div>bring 'em back, but bring 'em back in todays world. </div>

CW1Edwards
02-04-2007, 11:12 PM
<div>&quot;Fifty Years Ago&quot; page would be pretty dull--<em>CW</em> was started in 1962. Cook Neilson, former Editor of <em>Cycle,</em> did the story on the anniversary Super Glide for us. So, yes, we revisit the past when a bike or story calls for it, but we don't dwell there, which is how most readers want it.</div><div> </div><div>DE </div>

carlo
02-05-2007, 11:36 AM
<br><blockquote><hr>CW1Edwards wrote:<br><div>&quot;Fifty Years Ago&quot; page would be pretty dull--<em>CW</em> was started in 1962. Cook Neilson, former Editor of <em>Cycle,</em> did the story on the anniversary Super Glide for us. So, yes, we revisit the past when a bike or story calls for it, but we don't dwell there, which is how most readers want it.</div><div></div><div>DE</div><br><hr></blockquote><br><br>So, would you have a problem with my scanning an article occasionally from my collection and posting it in vintage/classic?<br>I've been doing ads recently, but have been reluctant to take on full articles even though I assume there are no copyright issues since I'm &quot;reprinting&quot; them in a medium that you guys own.

CW1Edwards
02-05-2007, 07:27 PM
<div>Actually, there are issues with a private party reprinting old stories, so for now the answer is no.</div><div> </div><div>DE</div>

hacksaw
02-05-2007, 08:27 PM
<div>no dont do it? or no, there isnt a problem?</div>

hacksaw
02-05-2007, 08:44 PM
<div><strong>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Fifty Years Ago&quot; page would be pretty dull--<em>CW</em> was started in 1962. Cook Neilson, former Editor of <em>Cycle,</em> did the story on the anniversary Super Glide for us.</strong></div><div><strong></strong> </div><div>okay, now riddle me this Edman, i was reading &quot;25 years ago&quot; at least as far back as the mid 70's. so how does one explain , say , a look back in 1976, at 1951? and dont say its because of it being Cycle magazine. you obviously took the idea from cycle when you absorbed it into CW. and hey, if you can reCycle their former editors, why not where they had been, 50 years ago?</div><div> </div><div>anyways, i did ask for 40years ago, which should fall well within your 1962 rule. christ, 25 years ago was in the 80's. who really cares about new stuff like that? lok at all the manufacturers that are pushing new bikes based upon nostalgia. starliners, harley heritages, bonnevilles, ducati, even the motoguzzi faux &quot;loop frame&quot; california classic. all these bikes are in current oem lineups. yet, they are based on eras your 25 years ago column doesnt reach back enuff for. wouldnt it be nice of some of today kids were able to get a little insight to those days ? whats boring is 1980's motorcycles.</div>

CW1Edwards
02-06-2007, 02:32 AM
<div>You weren't reading &quot;25 Years Ago&quot; in <em>CW</em> in the 1970s. We redesigned <em>Roundup</em> in the late Eighties, which is when the section was started. We didn't invent the concept so you could have seen it in another mag.</div><div> </div><div>As we've been doing it for about 15 years now, if we changed the focus to &quot;40 Years Ago,&quot; we'd be reporting on the exact same issues already covered. We probably wouldn't get very many complaints about that, huh...?</div><div> </div><div>DE</div>

carlo
02-06-2007, 11:11 AM
I'd rather see you do that than keep looking back 25 years forever.<br><br>The historical perspective is what's valuable about that. Many motorcyclists today seem to have no idea what motorcycling was like in the 60's.<br><br>Or...<br><br>Since you guys now own Cycle Magazine, what about actually going 50 years back? Did you acquire an archive of back issues?<br>I have a small collection dating from the early 50's, and I find them fascinating to read. I'm too young to have any memories of motorcycling in the 50's, so it's all new to me.

CW1Edwards
02-06-2007, 12:05 PM
<div>Sorry, guys, gotta go with the greater good here. The average <em>CW</em> reader is about 40. For him (96% male readership), &quot;25 Years Ago&quot; goes back to high-school years, when his interest in motorcycles (and girls, for that matter) was likely off the charts.To say that motorcycling was boring in the '80s says more about your interests than reality. Lots of people think reading about one more clanky, oil-spewing, needs-to-rebuilt-every-10,000-miles Britbike leaves a lot to be desired.</div><div> </div><div>As always, with a general-purpose motorcycle magazine like <em>Cycle World</em> (one of the few in the world remaining, though I see our friends at <em>Motorcyclist</em> are considering bringing back dirtbikes), striking a balance is the key. So, &quot;25 Years Ago&quot; stays, as does our commitment to running more classic-bike stories than any other non-vintage magazine.</div><div> </div><div>DE</div>

carlo
02-06-2007, 12:39 PM
Well, since you're the boss, even if we don't like the policy, not much we can do other than ****** and moan behind your back.<br><br>But, who said motorcycling in the 80's was boring? I wasn't talking from the perspective that anything 25 years or newer is boring. I'm interested in the history of motorcycling, which was very rich in the three decades following WWII. I like learning about things that I wasn't around to experience firsthand.<br>And, to be honest, I find articles about &quot;leaky&quot; &quot;unreliable&quot; Britbikes to be a bit on the boring side too; that's been run into the ground by the likes of Classic Bike and The Classic Motorcycle. On the other hand, I really enjoy reading about the incredible innovations in design, engineeering and manufacturing technology that the Japanese industry brought to motorcycling. The groundwork for all that came in the 70's, 80's and 90's was laid in the late 50's and early 60's.

RenoDeano
02-12-2007, 01:15 PM
<div>DucBSA, the same article noted that they shredded the rear tire (knobbie) before they had run a hundred miles. Great article. RenoDeano</div>